Everything A Trade | Sovereignty Through Mathematics Chapter 1 | Bitcoin Infinity Academy #2


This episode of the Bitcoin Infinity Academy covers Sovereignty Through Mathematics Chapter 1: Everything A Trade. Discover how every interaction is an exchange and how Bitcoin introduces absolute scarcity—redefining the nature of money and trade.
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Hello everyone and welcome to the
Bitcoin Infinity Academy, brought to
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you by Plan B Network and Bit Box.
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I'm Kwan and I'm here today,
as always with Luke De Wolf.
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How are we doing today, Luke?
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Doing great, knu.
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Thanks.
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This is really exciting.
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This first chapter here of sovereignty
through mathematics, everything a trade.
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This is, uh, yeah.
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Uh, I think we both were
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Know it basically by heart.
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It's, it's that memorable.
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So I'm excited to dive into it.
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Yes.
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So shall we just get at it?
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Uh, I think that's, uh,
how we do this, right?
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I, I, I think so.
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So, so I think I'll just, I'll just
remind if you want to follow along
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the, the chapters available on Noster,
uh, we've got a nice primal link.
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I think that we'll drop in the description
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All the links are in the description,
so I think with that, shall we dive in?
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Absolutely.
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Okay, let's do it.
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So this is the first
time we're doing this.
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I'll just explain that, but I think
the, the format here is gonna make
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a lot of sense once we get into it.
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Uh, basically I'm going to be reading
each paragraph and then Knut and I
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were, we're gonna discuss it and,
uh, see what ideas come out of it.
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So yeah, let's, uh, let's just do it.
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Everything at Trade chapter one of
Sovereignty through Mathematics.
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All human interaction
can be defined as trade.
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Yes.
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All human interaction, every
time a human being interacts with
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another, an exchange takes place.
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In every conversation we have, we
exchange information with each other.
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Even the most trivial information is
of some value to the other person.
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If information didn't have any value
to us, we wouldn't talk to each other.
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what the other person says is
valuable to us, or we find it
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valuable to give information to them.
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Oftentimes, both at the core of all human
interaction that isn't violent, both
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parties perceive that they gain some
value from it, otherwise, the interaction
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wouldn't have taken place at all.
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Civilizations begin this way.
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Two people finding it valuable
to interact with each other.
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That's all it takes.
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Knut.
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What did you mean by that?
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I, I think this is, uh, the perfect
way to start your, uh, Bitcoin journey.
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Understanding the simple fact about human
beings and how we interact that, uh,
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we, we have two means of communication
o of interacting with one another.
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One is communication, and the
other is violence or aggression.
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And, uh, as we are going to see over the
course of all of these courses, Consensual
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or like consensual, uh, interactions.
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Voluntary interactions are always
preferable to violent ones.
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Bitcoin is peace.
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Bitcoin is piece.
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Yeah, I mean, the, the, the funny thing
here is I, I, I. Really like what you
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say about this is the perfect start.
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Uh, completely agree with
that because, but, but it's,
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it's counterintuitive, right?
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Like the, the message that Bitcoin
is like all this in, in the
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mainstream that Bitcoin is all about.
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Crypto and, and all of this like number
go up, uh, everything related to that
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and no, like, it, uh, it, it's a total
mind shift when we approach Bitcoin
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from the philosophical perspective or,
or that Bitcoin is actually the result
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of coming to the understanding of the
world in a completely different way.
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And I mean, this is what I
originally liked about your books
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before we'd even met was, was that
j just an introduction to these.
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Alternate approaches to thinking about
the world that ultimately is, is a
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austral economics is, is at the, the base.
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Right.
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But, but I didn't know that.
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And isn't Al isn't it basically
also true that you didn't know
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that too at the time of writing?
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no, when I, when I wrote this
chapter, I hadn't really done a deep
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dive into Austrian economics yet.
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So in hindsight, I'm very proud that
I had come to, uh, these conclusions
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without knowing, too much about
Mees and Roth Board and all of that.
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But, uh, it, it is like w it is
so simple and I think everyone who
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just thinks about these things, uh,
will inevitably, uh, end up with.
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Drawing these conclusions because
these are things that you cannot
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argue with, uh, without running
into a logical contradiction.
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And that's the basis
of Austrian economics.
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And it's not really debatable.
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If, if, if you could debate it,
like, like I'd, I'd love to see
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the ideas of Austrian economics,
economics challenged somehow because.
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To be honest, some of
the axioms may be wrong.
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It's just that they are built around
being not being wrong because they're,
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you can't really argue against them.
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That's why they're axioms like, uh,
so, so, uh, yeah, first paragraph.
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First paragraph.
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Uh, we'll, we'll continue, I think,
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Austrian economics as, as we go here.
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So I'll, I'll.
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Save, I'll save some of my additional
comments on the matter for for
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other times when we're gonna hit.
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And this is gonna be a theme here
also, that, that we're going to hit
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some of the ideas multiple times.
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You know, like, uh, it, it comes
up over and over again in the
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course of a course of your books,
basically, but, but we're always
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gonna hit it from a slightly different
angle and, and build on the ideas.
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I think that's what we've been so
excited about as, as we go here.
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So, I'll, I'll move on to the,
uh, to the next paragraph here.
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So what constitutes value?
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What we find valuable
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A comforting hug, for example, probably
has a different value to a 2-year-old
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than it has to a withered army general.
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Even the most basic action
such as breathing encapsulates
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the whole value spectrum.
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We tend to forget that even a single
breath of air can be of immense value
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to us under the right circumstances.
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A single breath is worth more than
anything on the planet to a desperate,
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free diver, trapped under ice while worth
nothing to a person with a death wish.
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In clean forest air on a sunny summer day,
value is derived from supply and demand.
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And demand is always subjective.
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Supply is not.
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So supply and demand.
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Demand is always subjective.
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Supply is not really good.
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Encapsulation there.
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I think this is another
new thing for most people.
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Wouldn't you say.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Uh, and, and this is sort of how
trade is the bridge between, uh, the
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subjective and the objective between
the, will and wants of people and
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the, uh, the world around us really.
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And why, why property likes
owning something is, is what?
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What bridges the two worlds and
trading, trading objects with one
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another and trading goods and services.
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That's, that's really it.
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And there's another thing I thought
of when, when hearing this again, and
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it's the, um, the concept of breathing.
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Breathing can be a human action,
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And this, uh, here we go into deep,
uh, Austrian economics, I guess.
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Because it's about the distinction
between action and just instinct.
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Uh, so most of the time when you
breathe, you don't think about it.
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You don't do it with purpose.
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And this is how, uh, the, uh,
Austrian School differentiates
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between just basic instinct and like
animalistic behaviors and action.
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Because human action is, purposeful
behavior is the very first
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axiom of, of Austrian economics.
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So if you do something with intent.
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then it's an action.
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And you can also not do something,
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is why inaction is also an action.
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Main point of the paragraph
I would say is that demand is
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subjective and supply is not.
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And well, an interesting thing
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into some, some weeds here.
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I, I think it's really to
the, to the disservice of.
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A economics that, that's even
the terminology used at all.
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And I think that's the
biggest misconception about
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Austrian economics in general.
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Uh, that it's, it's really just describing
how the world I. And that's what makes
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it entirely different from all mainstream
economics, which is really this, this
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predictive price modeling and, and, and
trying, trying to, um, trying to think
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about how the world is going to work if
you make all these manipulative changes.
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But Austrian economics really just is a
description of how the world works and.
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When that clicked to me that that, you
know, kind of more libertarian types and
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the, the kind of political conclusions
I think of, of, of thinking in an
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Austrian way is, is actually different
from the Austrian economics itself.
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It's, it's not describing, uh, a
political, economic, framework.
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It's just describing human action, right.
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it's about methodology and epistemology.
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So all it does is say,
is say that, uh, um.
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All else given being equal if X then
y like so, so, so that's, that's the
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how, how you draw conclusions, uh,
from, from this type of thinking.
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And I think the reason it's not more
popular, uh, the main reason is, is all
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of the confusion going on because we
say schools of economics when they're.
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W there aren't really different schools.
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There's how the world works and there's
a bunch of, uh, uh, a, a bunch of word
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salads about different tasting word
salads, about how it oughts to work or how
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people think it works, but that's not it.
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Uh, Aus economics is just as much
about setting the boundaries for
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what we can know as, as it is
the knowledge itself, like so.
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Main point here is that
this is not debatable.
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Uh, value is absolutely subjective.
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Uh, it's subjective between
people and between situations.
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Uh, um, uh, uh, a table for instance can
be a tool for a. The same person like who
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wants to sit down and have a meal at the
table, but it can also be an obstacle.
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If it's on the freeway and he is trying
to drive on the freeway, then the table
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is not a useful tool, but a uh, uh, uh,
an obstacle meaning I. It has a completely
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different value, even a negative value.
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So value is valuing stuff is
something we do all the time.
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And these scales always change and
we always have a scale of preference
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that can be ordered, like from
highest priority to lowest priority.
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But we can never measure how, how much
more valuable one thing is to another,
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just that it is more or less valuable.
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This is so it can be arranged, uh,
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And this is, uh, another
thing in Austrian economics.
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And again, I think, I think it's
just, just the point of that, that all
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the other schools, schools are, are
people trying to control the world.
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Basically trying to impose their, their
will and how the world ought to be.
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But, but instead of just describing
how it works, and I, I, I
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think there's a real value in
understanding how the world works.
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That that's, that's been the, the biggest
thing that clicked with me when under when
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understanding this stuff is that, if you
can see a little bit behind the meaning.
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of why people do things is
so much easier to understand.
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well, yeah.
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Really, really simply.
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Why pe, why anyone does anything and,
and get to the root of their motivations
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and, and have a conversation with
people and understand what's going on.
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all coming back to incentives basically.
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Uh, and, and, um, I think that's, I
think that's really valuable and I
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think some of the conclusions towards
the end of this chapter, um, really
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allude at Bitcoin's role in, trying to
smooth out some of the, the incentive
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issues that we see in the system.
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So, uh, I don't know, do you,
do you have anything, anything
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more here or should we just
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I would just add that, uh, I, I don't
think the other schools of economics
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are like deliberately manipulative
and want to con control people.
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I think they, they, they are
what they are because, uh.
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For the longest time, like people
thought that, uh, empiricism was
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the only way of doing science, like,
uh, testing a, a hypothesis and, and
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measuring the results in the real
world, and then adjusting the hypothesis
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based on what those results were.
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But economics is a completely different.
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Science, uh, be because you
can't use empiricism to either
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confirm or deny anything.
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Since humans have free will, we have
no choice but to have it so humans
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can decide to do something else.
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The next time you measure.
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Markets are always dynamic, which
forces you to use a completely different
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method of thinking about these things.
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Uh, so methodology here is,
uh, is really the key to, to
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understanding what's going on.
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And without these thoughts,
Bitcoin couldn't have existed.
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Like, uh, uh, Satoshi definitely had at
least some understanding of osteo and
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economics, probably a very deep one.
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Otherwise, It wouldn't
have come up with Bitcoin.
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Uh, that's my theory anyway.
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Honestly, I think that's a
bit of a, maybe a hot take.
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Just, just it, it's, I think it's
impossible to know if this was what was,
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what was going on back at the, the time.
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But, uh, I, I, you, you might be
right, but, but, uh, maybe people can
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stumble on things with Without having
the, the knowledge and understanding.
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Right.
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Because, because you, you've said
yourself that you didn't, you
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didn't, uh, you didn't ever read
any meis before you wrote this book.
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that's, that's true.
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Like, uh, even a, a blind
hen can find a golden pebble,
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Bitcoin's definitely a golden pebble.
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Or more than that.
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Much more than
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yet it's a golden goose, which you
shouldn't sacrifice for kinder egg.
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Yes, that's, uh, maybe an in
joke, but, uh, good, good term.
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Anyway, I think, I think let's,
uh, let's tackle the next one here.
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Since all of our lives are limited
by time, time is the ultimate example
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of a scarce, tradable resource.
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We all sell our time, we sell it to
others, and we sell it to ourselves.
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Everyone sells their time either through
a product that took them a certain amount
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of time to produce or as a service.
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And services are always take time.
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If you are an employee on a steady
payroll, you typically sell eight hours
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of your day every day to your employer.
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If you're doing something you truly love
to do, that eight hour day still belongs
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to you in a way since you're doing
what you'd probably be doing anyway if
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you had been forced to do it for free.
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we sacrifice time in order to
acquire something in the future.
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An education, for instance, gives no
immediate reward, but can lead to a better
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paying, more satisfying job in the future.
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An investment is basically our
future self trading time with
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our present self at a discount.
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Once again, every human
interaction viewed as a trade.
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K.
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Yeah, I, I love the, the
middle of this paragraph.
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Uh, it is perfectly describing what
we're doing right now and, uh, how we
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own our, our time by doing, getting
paid for, doing what we would be doing
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anyway, because we love doing it.
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So, so, uh, uh.
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That's, that's my immediate
thought about this.
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And also there's, there's a hint
here at, uh, medium of exchange over
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time and space, which is a concept
we get into in clown world, uh, far
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off in the future for this show.
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But, uh, that.
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Um, you're, you're trading with your
future self when you're storing value.
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So I, I don't really like
the term store of value.
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I prefer medium exchange over time
because what you're actually doing is
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you're trading with your future self.
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And so all, all interactions
take place in time.
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So without the time dimension,
you can't have any trade.
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I'm, I'm still a store of value guy.
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I like the term as a, as a description
and you, you know, but it, it's,
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it's good to to point out that
we're not exactly the same person.
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We, we, we bicker like a
married couple all the time.
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I. But, but, uh, no, no.
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Uh, the medium of exchange over time
idea that, that definitely is a, is an
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interesting way of thinking about it.
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I, I, I still value the, the other
terms to, because I think they're
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a little more straightforward
for, for people to, to grasp.
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But, but yeah, medium
of exchange over time.
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Um, and, and in this paragraph, I like
the allusion to, to sacrifice and I mean.
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This is a concept that civilizationally
basically, uh, the, the, the concept of
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being low time preference or in other
words, sacrificing immediate gratification
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for, uh, for gain in the future.
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That's how civilization developed
and societies that started to take up
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ritual sacrifice in order to literally.
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Practice sacrificing, uh, uh, to get
their, but to get their mindset right.
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Basically.
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That's my understanding of the,
the purpose of, of sacrifice.
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Like, um, um, taking, I don't
know, the, the, the last bushel
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of wheat or whatever it is that I.
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Uh, people farm, um, and, and burning it.
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Um, uh, or, or actually many types, types
of sacrifice was even that you just had
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it in a, a feast like you, you sort of,
you, you richly sacrifice it, but then
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everyone eats it or, or whatever it is.
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But you, you give something up in
order to, to mimic the scarcity of,
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of losing something so that you have
the mindset of that you need to get
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better and you need to continually.
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Do the thing that, that moves society
forward as soon as civilizations, as
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soon as cultures started to realize that,
then there's more and more archeological
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evidence that they grow bigger and bigger
and they're able to better withstand,
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uh, difficult, difficult conditions,
especially winters like none of the
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societies that developed in in Northern
Europe, would've been able to, to
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get through anything if they couldn't
make it through the winter, basically.
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So they, they learned low time preference.
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Right.
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And, uh, uh, so, so yeah, it's, it's
just tying this all together to the
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idea of that, you can get your head
around that, maybe doing something
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now to better yourself and, and
delaying gratification is going to
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get you better rewards in the future.
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That, that's something for
every individual to learn.
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That's something for every
family group of people to learn.
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And, and honestly, I think the world
is gonna be much better off if we
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can, if we can collectively, uh.
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More people, more individuals can
pick up on these ideas and, and, uh,
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uh, help their local environments
and groups to, to, uh, practice it.
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Yeah.
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And in Bitcoin we sacrifice goats.
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You know, whenever a goat, a
greatest of all time thinker, uh,
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starts shit coining, for instance.
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We have to slay our
heroes and sacrifice them.
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Yeah, that's not foreshadowing
anything about you.
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Is it Knu?
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I certainly hope not.
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Uh, yeah.
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And, uh.
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The, the proper sacrifice here.
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Like the point here is that, uh,
delayed gratification sacrificing
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your time now for, for, uh, uh,
future gratification, that that is the
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proper way of looking at sacrifice.
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Uh, uh, that is the thing that
actually yields result when you,
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when you sacrifice something.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Great point here.
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Okay.
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Uh, onto the next one.
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Uh, and, uh, and I, I, I think, I think
I'll just say here, 'cause this is gonna
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be a, it's not like a, uh, sometimes
paragraphs are going to be relating
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to the one previously in a way that
sort of is, we'll, we'll just remember
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that this came after the last one.
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Yep.
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So
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it's rooted in physics.
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For every action there is
an equally large reaction.
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Trade is at the very core of what
we are and the tools we use to
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conduct trade matter a lot to
the outcome of each transaction.
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is our primary tool for expressing
value to each other, and if the
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creation of money is somewhat corrupt
or unethical, that wrought spreads down
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throughout society from top to bottom.
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Shit flows downhill as
the expression goes.
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Can.
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Uh, yeah.
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Uh, if I was to write this book again,
now I wouldn't use the word, uh, I
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wouldn't have used the word physics,
just, and the, the reason I would would
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avoid it is not because I don't agree
with that, that every action has an
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equally big, uh, reaction, but that
I think it's important to distinguish
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between human action and all other.
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All other branches of science.
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Uh, physics is an empirical
science, uh, ology is not.
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which is also, by the way, why
Bitcoin is not digital energy.
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Uh, I, I, I don't like that phrasing.
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I think it's, uh, way
more complex than that.
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Uh, but we we're going to get into,
uh, some other, examples like this,
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uh, where I use like physics metaphors
that I, I will try to explain as
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best as I can, why they're flawed.
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They might be good to just ease
someone into this new way of thinking,
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but, uh, uh, at the end of the day,
all, all physics metaphors, uh,
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for Bitcoin are basically wrong.
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Fair enough, but I mean, I mean, yeah.
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Good to kind of point it out.
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And, and again, like wrongness
is subjective, also sort of, uh,
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the metaphors themselves, if they
help people understand things
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better, they're not wrong in the
sense of being empirically wrong.
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In those cases, they, they help
people the understand the concept,
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and I don't think that's wrong.
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Now there they might be, uh.
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Like objectively wrong, but
sub subjectively, right?
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Uh, if, if that makes any
sense, if they're, uh,
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helpful.
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subjectively helpful as a tool
of understanding other stuff.
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something on your, jo on your journey.
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But this is, I, I think this paragraph,
like it kind of explains itself.
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It's not very complicated.
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If money printing goes on, uh,
everything else gets corrupt.
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Um, and this is where I'd like
to recommend, uh, a guy that I
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recently interviewed, uh, Joe
Rogers, uh, his, uh, movie.
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What is the problem?
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There's little animated movie.
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Uh, if you, if you Google.
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Uh, what is the problem?
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You, you'll, uh, get a very
good basic e explanation of what
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happens when, when, uh, the states
start running the money printer.
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Yeah.
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Good.
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And actually this is a good time to point
out that, that we're, we're actually
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with the Bitcoin Infinity Academy.
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We're we're being quite a bit
more, uh, uh, on time with,
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with this, like this episode.
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We're recording it
right now on a Saturday.
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This is gonna be out on Monday.
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I. Uh, but our Bitcoin Infinity show,
we, we have a big backlog and we, we
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take a lot of time, um, to, to release
the, the episodes and, and get them out
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just for the, uh, I don't know the, the
difficulties of, of life and all this.
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So, uh, we might reference things
that haven't actually come out yet,
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but we're, we're gonna stay on time
and fairly topical with, with these,
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uh, academy episodes, which is, which
is gonna be gonna be pretty fun.
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But.
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Uh, yeah, I agree.
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And I mean, uh, uh, another thing
too is that, is that we're going
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to be, um, touching on topics
that are better explored later.
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And I think we know that sometimes, uh,
that, that we go deeper into something.
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So I think, uh, bear with us, if,
if you want to hear a little bit
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more about something specific that
we're, we're talking about here,
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maybe our answer is going to be
a little bit of like, Hey, like.
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Tune in to, to a, a, a later chapter here.
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But we we're also happy to, to,
I think, flesh some things out
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independent of, uh, of being tied
to a book, uh, a chapter, right?
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Yeah, or, or just join the
academy and pose a question in
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the group and we will bring it up.
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Uh, yeah, that, that's,
that's what I was getting at.
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Like, uh, uh, we're, we're happy to,
to discuss things a little more kind
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of outta band, but I, but I think
we'll go, we will hit them also in
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depth, uh, as, as the ideas come up.
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So, um, yeah.
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Uh, the, the, uh, these earlier
books are thought of idea embryos
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for what was to come later, uh,
and, and culminating in clown world.
445
00:25:09,515 --> 00:25:10,745
We'll, we'll get to that.
446
00:25:11,405 --> 00:25:11,645
Yeah.
447
00:25:11,645 --> 00:25:15,545
When, when we get to, when we get to
clown world, uh, we're going deep.
448
00:25:16,265 --> 00:25:16,475
It's gonna
449
00:25:16,550 --> 00:25:21,380
Yeah, this, this, uh, academy is
all about delayed gratification.
450
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,325
There we go.
451
00:25:22,775 --> 00:25:22,985
Good.
452
00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:23,285
Good.
453
00:25:23,825 --> 00:25:24,005
Okay.
454
00:25:24,005 --> 00:25:24,710
Onto the next one.
455
00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:33,185
So what is money, or rather, what ought
money to be in order for two persons to
456
00:25:33,185 --> 00:25:37,685
interact when a mutual coincidence of
needs is absent, a medium of exchange is
457
00:25:37,685 --> 00:25:39,755
needed in order to execute a transaction?
458
00:25:40,325 --> 00:25:43,805
A mutual coincidence of needs
might be, you need my three
459
00:25:43,805 --> 00:25:45,455
goats and I need your cow.
460
00:25:45,965 --> 00:25:47,975
Or even both of us need a hug.
461
00:25:49,220 --> 00:25:52,040
In the absence of a physical good
or service suitable for a specific
462
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,670
transaction, money can fulfill
the role of a medium of exchange.
463
00:25:56,420 --> 00:26:00,170
What most people fail to realize is that
the value of money, just as the value of
464
00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:02,600
everything else, is entirely subjective.
465
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:04,760
You don't have to spend it.
466
00:26:05,234 --> 00:26:08,924
the problem with every incarnation of
money that mankind has ever tried is
467
00:26:08,924 --> 00:26:13,454
that its value always gets diluted over
time due to inflation in various forms.
468
00:26:14,339 --> 00:26:18,359
Inflation makes traditional money,
a bad store of value and money needs
469
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,569
to be a good store of value, in
order to be a good investment, or in
470
00:26:21,569 --> 00:26:24,839
other words, a good substitute for
your time and your effort over time.
471
00:26:26,009 --> 00:26:30,119
Bitcoin tries to solve this problem
by introducing absolute scarcity to
472
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,089
the world, a concept that mankind
has never encountered before.
473
00:26:34,619 --> 00:26:38,189
To comprehend what such a discovery
means for the future, one needs to
474
00:26:38,189 --> 00:26:41,849
understand the fundamentals of what
value is and that we assign a certain
475
00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:45,509
value to everything we encounter in
life, whether we admit it or not.
476
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:49,139
In short, we assign value
to everything we do.
477
00:26:49,469 --> 00:26:52,949
Value is derived from supply and
demand and supply is objective
478
00:26:52,949 --> 00:26:54,599
while demand is subjective.
479
00:26:56,494 --> 00:26:57,044
Great summary.
480
00:26:59,009 --> 00:26:59,489
Thank you.
481
00:26:59,549 --> 00:27:03,329
Um, I mean, this is at the
core of what Bitcoin is, right?
482
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,329
You have a potential infinite, uh,
demand and an absolutely finite supply.
483
00:27:09,329 --> 00:27:13,739
And if you combine, those two
number can only go up forever.
484
00:27:13,739 --> 00:27:15,539
That's, that is the conclusion here.
485
00:27:15,779 --> 00:27:18,329
So while that seems utopian.
486
00:27:19,214 --> 00:27:22,004
You're living through it right
now, whether you want to or not,
487
00:27:22,004 --> 00:27:25,124
you can either be on this train or
not, and nothing stops this train.
488
00:27:25,634 --> 00:27:31,934
So, uh, the, the here, uh, uh, a crucial
point here is that no civilization ever
489
00:27:32,054 --> 00:27:34,724
happens before money is discovered.
490
00:27:34,874 --> 00:27:41,714
Uh, so there, there is no barter
civilization, civilizations don't.
491
00:27:42,449 --> 00:27:44,189
Emerge from just border.
492
00:27:44,189 --> 00:27:46,919
You need something, you
need a medium of exchange.
493
00:27:47,429 --> 00:27:53,609
Uh, and, uh, my, my favorite de definition
of, uh, money is Hans harm Hopper's
494
00:27:53,609 --> 00:27:58,979
definition, which is that it's, it's
the best insurance against uncertainty,
495
00:27:58,984 --> 00:28:03,809
uh, uh, available or the best defense
against uncertainty available because
496
00:28:03,809 --> 00:28:05,669
that's all money is supposed to do.
497
00:28:05,669 --> 00:28:08,999
It's supposed to give you ease
of mind so that you can go into
498
00:28:08,999 --> 00:28:10,649
the future knowing that you can.
499
00:28:11,084 --> 00:28:16,074
Use the fruits of your labor later,
and exchange it for something else
500
00:28:16,074 --> 00:28:17,604
that you need more than the other guy.
501
00:28:17,634 --> 00:28:19,674
Like, it's, it's very simple like that.
502
00:28:20,214 --> 00:28:25,104
Uh, it's just that we have, uh,
all of human history tainted by bad
503
00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:29,214
money and by, uh, corrupted money,
unethical money, whatever you may
504
00:28:29,214 --> 00:28:31,764
call it, uh, inflationary money.
505
00:28:32,324 --> 00:28:35,682
so in, in that sense, Bitcoin
rewrites all of history.
506
00:28:35,742 --> 00:28:40,182
Like, uh, we've never had
a perfect representation of
507
00:28:40,182 --> 00:28:41,567
history before, but now we do.
508
00:28:42,235 --> 00:28:42,655
Yeah.
509
00:28:42,715 --> 00:28:43,135
Damn.
510
00:28:43,165 --> 00:28:45,359
I mean like, uh, the whole thing here.
511
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:49,289
When, when you say that, uh,
I, I was going to that, yeah.
512
00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:53,069
There are times in history when the
money is a little bit better, and of
513
00:28:53,069 --> 00:28:58,139
course we never had the technological
stack for Bitcoin to exist before.
514
00:28:58,349 --> 00:29:00,809
We needed some kind of, some kind of.
515
00:29:01,329 --> 00:29:04,209
Mechanism of the technology.
516
00:29:04,209 --> 00:29:08,319
I mean, we're not gonna get into a history
lesson of what had to come before Bitcoin,
517
00:29:08,349 --> 00:29:12,759
but, but basically the, the proof of
work mechanism and, and coordinating
518
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:16,119
different, uh, um, nodes in a network.
519
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,589
Like you couldn't have had Bitcoin if you
can't communicate with people, basically.
520
00:29:22,189 --> 00:29:23,424
That I, I would say.
521
00:29:23,694 --> 00:29:26,544
From my point of view, that is
true and untrue at the same time.
522
00:29:26,844 --> 00:29:32,514
And the reason is, if everyone
was absolutely 100% honest all the
523
00:29:32,514 --> 00:29:34,314
time, we could have had Bitcoin.
524
00:29:34,674 --> 00:29:38,904
So the only reason we need all the
technology and all the proof of work
525
00:29:38,904 --> 00:29:43,014
and all, all of these things is to
prevent people from being dishonest.
526
00:29:43,284 --> 00:29:46,434
But if people just had been
honest to begin with, we
527
00:29:46,434 --> 00:29:47,664
wouldn't have needed Bitcoin.
528
00:29:47,874 --> 00:29:49,314
Uh, that's the way I view that.
529
00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:52,569
Oh, that's a, that's a clip right there.
530
00:29:52,569 --> 00:29:56,709
I think maybe, let's see here.
531
00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,419
Let's, um, let's, let's continue.
532
00:29:58,419 --> 00:29:58,749
I think
533
00:30:00,969 --> 00:30:04,689
free trade emerges out of human
interaction naturally, and it is
534
00:30:04,689 --> 00:30:08,259
not an idea that was forced upon
us at any specific point in time.
535
00:30:09,069 --> 00:30:12,744
The idea that markets should be regulated
and governed on the other hand was
536
00:30:13,629 --> 00:30:17,259
breach rate, is just the absence of
forceful interference in an interaction
537
00:30:17,259 --> 00:30:19,149
between two humans by a third party.
538
00:30:19,974 --> 00:30:22,164
There's nothing intrinsically
wrong or immoral about an
539
00:30:22,164 --> 00:30:23,604
exchange of a good or service.
540
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:28,090
every objection to this is a byproduct
of the current global narrative, a
541
00:30:28,090 --> 00:30:31,810
narrative that tells us that the world is
divided into different nations, and that
542
00:30:31,810 --> 00:30:36,010
people in these nations operate under
various sets of laws depending on what
543
00:30:36,055 --> 00:30:37,660
jurisdiction they find themselves in.
544
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,900
All of these ideas are manmade, no species
except humans does this to themselves.
545
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,440
Animals do trade, but
they don't do politics.
546
00:30:48,765 --> 00:30:50,085
what did you mean by this paragraph?
547
00:30:50,085 --> 00:30:50,205
Cano?
548
00:30:51,463 --> 00:30:57,177
Yes, it's, it's to, uh, emphasize the
point that, capitalism is not optional.
549
00:30:57,177 --> 00:31:00,477
Like it's, it's not, it's
not a manmade concept.
550
00:31:00,477 --> 00:31:05,766
It's, it's something that emerges
naturally from human behavior, uh, and
551
00:31:05,766 --> 00:31:07,986
even animal behavior to some extent.
552
00:31:08,507 --> 00:31:14,297
The, the, the term capital good refers to
something that you can use at a later time
553
00:31:14,297 --> 00:31:19,157
or use in the production of other goods,
ultimately leading to a consumer good,
554
00:31:19,157 --> 00:31:20,957
to the production of a consumer good.
555
00:31:21,497 --> 00:31:24,887
And accumulating these things
and trading them with one another
556
00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:27,047
is what leads to civilization.
557
00:31:27,047 --> 00:31:29,207
That is the process of civilization.
558
00:31:29,537 --> 00:31:34,817
So saying that, uh, capitalism is
evil, is, is a very, very strange,
559
00:31:34,847 --> 00:31:36,347
is very, very strange to me.
560
00:31:36,717 --> 00:31:42,162
And I think the reason the word has,
been so skewed over the years is, uh,
561
00:31:42,262 --> 00:31:44,627
is like the world, the word liberalism.
562
00:31:44,627 --> 00:31:48,377
It ought to, it ought to mean like
people are free to do whatever the
563
00:31:48,377 --> 00:31:53,297
fuck they want, but it doesn't in the
modern context of the world of the word.
564
00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:56,537
So the same is true for
capitalism, I think.
565
00:31:56,537 --> 00:32:00,767
I think the reason the
word is so tainted is, uh.
566
00:32:01,432 --> 00:32:05,962
It's because of money printing at the
end of the day that, that some, some
567
00:32:05,962 --> 00:32:11,242
asshole has been able to print money
and then blame the failures of the free
568
00:32:11,242 --> 00:32:14,752
market, so-called failures of the free
market, which are really failures of
569
00:32:14,752 --> 00:32:19,582
the boom and bust, boom, bust, boom
cycle that follows from money printing
570
00:32:19,942 --> 00:32:24,082
and political interventionism, like
this is always the root of the problem.
571
00:32:24,667 --> 00:32:30,607
It's always marketed as the remedy or,
or the antidote to the, the, or the,
572
00:32:30,607 --> 00:32:34,987
the solution to the problem, uh, when
it's actually the underlying cause.
573
00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:39,247
and I think most people get this
wrong because we're constantly
574
00:32:39,247 --> 00:32:45,994
being bombarded by, uh, state funded
information channels that give us this
575
00:32:45,994 --> 00:32:48,793
worldview, public schooling for is one.
576
00:32:48,853 --> 00:32:49,873
And, uh, uh.
577
00:32:50,713 --> 00:32:53,083
Government subsidizes media outlets.
578
00:32:53,083 --> 00:32:56,323
It's another and everyone working
there, they, they're doing their best.
579
00:32:56,323 --> 00:33:00,463
And I think they try their best to
give accurate information to people,
580
00:33:00,463 --> 00:33:07,107
but they're also brainwashed by the
notion, of by, by politics and by the
581
00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:10,561
money being, corrupt to begin with.
582
00:33:10,861 --> 00:33:12,481
Uh, skews everything.
583
00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:16,107
Yeah, and I mean, I, I think a, a
nuance here also that, that I think you
584
00:33:16,107 --> 00:33:17,997
were getting at is, is that, is that.
585
00:33:19,462 --> 00:33:22,882
we call capitalism, especially
the most capitalistic places.
586
00:33:23,362 --> 00:33:27,532
Uh, it's, it's all the, all the
problems really just come from the,
587
00:33:27,532 --> 00:33:29,182
the, the government intervention.
588
00:33:29,632 --> 00:33:34,462
And, and this is a, this is one of those
things getting into the political realm
589
00:33:34,552 --> 00:33:40,462
of, of this, the, the reason I think why
people who get into Austrian economics
590
00:33:40,972 --> 00:33:44,872
eventually start to lean, libertarian, or.
591
00:33:45,697 --> 00:33:46,117
Right.
592
00:33:46,117 --> 00:33:50,797
Or something an Arco capitalist
even is just that it becomes
593
00:33:50,857 --> 00:33:55,987
clear that that interventions
in the market are the problem.
594
00:33:56,647 --> 00:34:02,182
Uh, and, and it's really what makes
the, the capitalism I. Not work.
595
00:34:02,242 --> 00:34:04,612
The free trade between
individuals not work.
596
00:34:05,002 --> 00:34:08,062
The people who are closest to the
money printer are deciding to give
597
00:34:08,062 --> 00:34:14,902
money to different people, companies,
groups, picking winners essentially,
598
00:34:15,262 --> 00:34:17,752
and they're also choosing to tax.
599
00:34:18,697 --> 00:34:20,947
One group or another differently.
600
00:34:21,337 --> 00:34:25,717
So it's picking winners and losers
and, and we don't have any idea of
601
00:34:25,717 --> 00:34:29,197
what it would really look like in,
in a, in a real capitalist system.
602
00:34:29,197 --> 00:34:35,932
I mean, I, I saw a breakdown of, I. all
the ways that, uh, that the US healthcare
603
00:34:35,932 --> 00:34:42,862
system is, is interfered with all the way
down from, uh, in insurance being mandated
604
00:34:43,042 --> 00:34:48,322
so that, so that, uh, hospitals can bill
basically whatever they want because
605
00:34:48,322 --> 00:34:49,972
insurance companies have to pay for it.
606
00:34:50,242 --> 00:34:53,572
And then therefore insurance
companies raise their premiums.
607
00:34:54,057 --> 00:34:58,557
A whole ton, thereby making it more
expensive for people to afford insurance.
608
00:34:58,557 --> 00:35:02,397
And it just, all, it trickles
down, uh, monopolies on patents,
609
00:35:02,487 --> 00:35:07,497
uh, um, enforced regulations that
mean that smaller companies cannot
610
00:35:07,497 --> 00:35:08,907
compete in the medical space.
611
00:35:09,147 --> 00:35:14,967
Just, just a crazy number of interventions
that, that distort everything.
612
00:35:15,507 --> 00:35:16,422
And so the so-called.
613
00:35:17,497 --> 00:35:22,957
Big capitalist healthcare system isn't
a capitalist at all, and theoretically
614
00:35:22,957 --> 00:35:24,757
the cure is going to be more socialism.
615
00:35:25,237 --> 00:35:27,517
That's really not going to work.
616
00:35:27,517 --> 00:35:28,442
I think I.
617
00:35:29,182 --> 00:35:34,822
No, and this is, there are so many layers
to this, so it's sort of impossible to to
618
00:35:34,822 --> 00:35:39,712
imagine a world without interventionism,
except if you're a Bitcoin and do a lot
619
00:35:39,712 --> 00:35:41,602
of hanging out with other Bitcoiners.
620
00:35:41,602 --> 00:35:45,382
I mean, what we're doing right now,
Luke, like you and I, are trading our
621
00:35:45,382 --> 00:35:49,822
time and effort with one another and
it's a mutually beneficial thing, and.
622
00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:53,637
So, so is the audience here,
everyone watching this does
623
00:35:53,637 --> 00:35:55,347
so by their own volition.
624
00:35:55,587 --> 00:35:58,707
They, they are, they are here
because they want to be here.
625
00:35:59,127 --> 00:36:03,717
And who, why couldn't the
entire world work like that?
626
00:36:03,777 --> 00:36:07,647
Why couldn't everything be
consensual and voluntary?
627
00:36:08,007 --> 00:36:12,657
And thinking that some things have
to be enforced is a product of
628
00:36:13,017 --> 00:36:15,087
that very same kind of enforcement.
629
00:36:15,117 --> 00:36:18,537
We only think that because
we have been forced to.
630
00:36:19,372 --> 00:36:27,082
Live in systems where, where you draw
those conclusions, uh, from necessity
631
00:36:27,112 --> 00:36:30,952
because there are assholes with guns
threatening you to, to, to take you
632
00:36:30,952 --> 00:36:35,002
away and put you in a cell if you don't
do what they, they think is wrong or
633
00:36:35,002 --> 00:36:36,562
right, because at the end of the day.
634
00:36:37,032 --> 00:36:40,362
Who is to say what is a
problem with the market?
635
00:36:40,422 --> 00:36:42,822
Like that is entirely subjective too.
636
00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:44,862
Like, who gets to set the framing?
637
00:36:45,192 --> 00:36:47,502
Like this is a, this company is too big.
638
00:36:48,042 --> 00:36:53,204
I mean, says who, even, what, what, what
people view as the most capitalistic
639
00:36:53,204 --> 00:36:57,464
institutions of the world, like,
uh, multinational corporations.
640
00:36:57,944 --> 00:37:02,294
They are the size, they are
mostly because of interventionism,
641
00:37:02,294 --> 00:37:04,334
quenching all the competition.
642
00:37:04,814 --> 00:37:09,104
So, and, and, and the, the
interventionism helps these large
643
00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:14,047
entities, it helps them, uh, form
artificial monopolies in, in all of.
644
00:37:15,007 --> 00:37:20,523
All areas of life, by, by just
disallowing every potential
645
00:37:20,523 --> 00:37:22,784
competitor to challenge 'em.
646
00:37:23,054 --> 00:37:26,924
That that's the main mechanism
that keeps, uh, that, that, that,
647
00:37:26,924 --> 00:37:30,854
that makes monopolies happen at
all on a completely free market.
648
00:37:31,454 --> 00:37:34,499
Uh, theoretically a monopoly
situation cannot happen.
649
00:37:35,102 --> 00:37:38,912
uh, which is counterintuitive to most
people, and we'll get into the weeds of
650
00:37:38,912 --> 00:37:42,692
this in, in later books, but, uh, this
is not a discussion for now, I guess.
651
00:37:43,107 --> 00:37:46,287
No, I, I'm, uh, uh, my only remark
here is that I'm, I'm enjoying
652
00:37:46,287 --> 00:37:47,787
how spicy we're already getting.
653
00:37:47,787 --> 00:37:50,667
It's not so spicy, but like,
it's, it's getting a little bit
654
00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:51,987
spicy at this point already.
655
00:37:52,017 --> 00:37:54,567
So yeah, we're, uh, we're having fun.
656
00:37:54,567 --> 00:37:58,017
This, this series is gonna be
an absolute, absolute blast.
657
00:37:58,017 --> 00:37:59,607
I'm already, I'm already
really enjoying it.
658
00:38:00,350 --> 00:38:00,620
Yeah.
659
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Let's, uh, let's continue.
660
00:38:03,777 --> 00:38:07,617
Bitcoin and the idea of truly sound
absolutely scarce money inevitably
661
00:38:07,617 --> 00:38:10,917
makes you question human societal
structures in general and the
662
00:38:10,947 --> 00:38:12,477
nature of money in particular.
663
00:38:13,227 --> 00:38:16,407
Once you realize that this
Pandora's box of an idea can't
664
00:38:16,407 --> 00:38:20,457
be closed again by anyone,
everything is put into perspective.
665
00:38:21,387 --> 00:38:25,977
Once you realize that it is now possible
for anyone with a decently sized brain to
666
00:38:25,977 --> 00:38:30,987
store any amount of wealth in that brain,
or to beam wealth anonymously to any other
667
00:38:30,987 --> 00:38:35,427
brain in the world without anyone else
ever knowing everything you are ever told
668
00:38:35,427 --> 00:38:37,737
about human society is turned on its head.
669
00:38:38,907 --> 00:38:42,147
Everything you thought you
knew about taxes, social class,
670
00:38:42,357 --> 00:38:47,517
capitalism, socialism, economics,
or even democracy falls apart like
671
00:38:47,517 --> 00:38:49,137
a house of cards in a hurricane.
672
00:38:50,067 --> 00:38:54,597
It is in fact impossible to comprehend
the impact Bitcoin will have on the
673
00:38:54,597 --> 00:38:58,977
planet without also understanding
basic Austrian economics and what
674
00:38:58,977 --> 00:39:01,287
the Libertarian worldview stems from.
675
00:39:02,787 --> 00:39:03,177
Okay.
676
00:39:05,292 --> 00:39:09,012
This, uh, reminds me that Pandora's
box sentence there reminds me
677
00:39:09,012 --> 00:39:10,722
of something Michael Dunworth.
678
00:39:10,782 --> 00:39:15,222
Uh, my friend Michael Dunworth said
on a panel we were on at Bitcoin
679
00:39:15,222 --> 00:39:19,607
alive in Sydney, uh, just a couple of
weeks back, and that is that Bitcoin
680
00:39:19,722 --> 00:39:25,152
is the first thing that humanity has
ever built, that we can't, uh, break.
681
00:39:25,512 --> 00:39:27,552
We, we cannot undo this.
682
00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:30,522
Like we have built something
that we cannot stop.
683
00:39:31,587 --> 00:39:36,417
And not wanting to, to own a
bit of that, or to be part of
684
00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:38,877
that, uh, is just insanity.
685
00:39:38,967 --> 00:39:45,897
Like, uh, I, I mean, time will tell,
but everything points to Bitcoin
686
00:39:45,897 --> 00:39:49,917
being completely unbreakable,
which is, uh, which is just mind
687
00:39:49,917 --> 00:39:51,627
blowing in itself, isn't it?
688
00:39:52,770 --> 00:39:53,825
It, it completely is.
689
00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:56,255
And I mean, this is another one of
these things where I just get back
690
00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,645
to, uh, when you get it, you get it.
691
00:40:00,290 --> 00:40:02,450
When you take the orange
pill, you can't untake it.
692
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:03,560
You know?
693
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,220
It, it, it, it's, it's, it's like
you've seen behind the curtain and
694
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:13,190
just nothing, nothing else, uh, ever
makes sense anymore except in, except
695
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:15,170
in the contents of context of Bitcoin.
696
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,820
And so, yeah.
697
00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:19,910
Yeah, like, uh, coming
to these realizations is
698
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:22,040
important and, and, you know.
699
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:26,930
Uh, I, I say it, I say it a lot because
I think it's, it's important to say this,
700
00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:31,760
like the reason we talk about this stuff
as much as we do and we go deep into it.
701
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,460
I mean, there, there's, there's so
many layers to this, this, this,
702
00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:36,410
we're doing this for our own benefit.
703
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,890
We're doing this for the
benefit of everyone listening.
704
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:40,430
Right?
705
00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:43,220
And, and I mean, the, I think my,
my assumption is anyone who's.
706
00:40:43,745 --> 00:40:47,885
Listening to this at, at this point is,
is going to be already pretty, pretty
707
00:40:47,885 --> 00:40:49,685
deep into the Bitcoin rabbit hole already.
708
00:40:49,685 --> 00:40:52,685
But wouldn't it be awesome if, if
this is like one of these things
709
00:40:52,685 --> 00:40:56,825
that you know, hey, you, you, you've
just got your first Bitcoin here.
710
00:40:56,825 --> 00:41:01,385
Check out, check out this series on,
on sovereignty through mathematics, uh,
711
00:41:01,385 --> 00:41:03,755
and, and really dig deep into this stuff.
712
00:41:03,755 --> 00:41:07,775
I mean, what's the impact that,
that us doing this could have
713
00:41:07,775 --> 00:41:09,815
in, in the future here, but.
714
00:41:10,850 --> 00:41:14,390
Not, not specifically this, this
series, but just all the talk about
715
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:17,360
Bitcoin and getting better at the
ideas and understanding them better.
716
00:41:18,042 --> 00:41:21,792
yeah, like conviction deepening is
important and, and being able to
717
00:41:21,792 --> 00:41:24,762
explain these things to other people
is important because even though it
718
00:41:24,762 --> 00:41:28,122
can't break it, we don't know how
long it's gonna take before, before
719
00:41:28,392 --> 00:41:30,102
the world is overtaken by Bitcoin
720
00:41:30,847 --> 00:41:32,967
Before, before it breaks everything else.
721
00:41:33,582 --> 00:41:34,872
or it breaks everything else.
722
00:41:34,872 --> 00:41:35,322
Yeah.
723
00:41:35,832 --> 00:41:40,587
So, no, I mean, I mean, I, I just keep
getting more, more, I. Not bullish.
724
00:41:40,587 --> 00:41:40,977
Exactly.
725
00:41:40,977 --> 00:41:41,607
It's the wrong word.
726
00:41:41,607 --> 00:41:46,887
It's just, when we talk about this stuff,
it gets me excited about where we, where
727
00:41:46,887 --> 00:41:50,847
we're going to be, uh, in the future here.
728
00:41:51,286 --> 00:41:54,466
when, when more and more people think
about these ideas and, and start to
729
00:41:54,466 --> 00:41:56,536
change the way they live their lives.
730
00:41:56,536 --> 00:41:58,576
Because may, maybe that's,
maybe that's another thing here.
731
00:41:59,176 --> 00:42:03,826
I definitely live life in a
different way after discovering
732
00:42:03,976 --> 00:42:06,856
Bitcoin and after seeing that, that.
733
00:42:07,516 --> 00:42:12,736
Everything, all the ways of operating
before were just, were just a hamster's
734
00:42:12,736 --> 00:42:16,276
wheel to get ahead in the rat race or
whatever other metaphor makes sense.
735
00:42:16,276 --> 00:42:19,636
But you figure out Bitcoin and so
many other things start to make
736
00:42:19,636 --> 00:42:22,696
more sense and, and you just live
your life a totally different way.
737
00:42:22,696 --> 00:42:26,596
And I don't know, I'm, I'm just
hopeful that, uh, through discussing
738
00:42:26,596 --> 00:42:30,196
these ideas, more people can
come to the same realization.
739
00:42:30,586 --> 00:42:32,266
I don't have much more
of a point than that.
740
00:42:32,266 --> 00:42:34,156
It's just, it's just always
awesome to think about.
741
00:42:34,491 --> 00:42:38,596
I, I, I view it as like the, the life
I led before and, and like, like life.
742
00:42:38,626 --> 00:42:41,596
How you view life in
general before Bitcoin.
743
00:42:41,596 --> 00:42:46,786
Is that success always the, the, this
false notion that success necessarily
744
00:42:46,786 --> 00:42:50,986
has to come at someone else's expense,
which Bitcoin sort of points out
745
00:42:50,986 --> 00:42:53,926
that that is completely 100% false.
746
00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:55,066
Uh, eh.
747
00:42:55,501 --> 00:43:02,281
One person's success can benefit everyone
else on Earth simultaneously, if we just
748
00:43:02,281 --> 00:43:06,991
start using the, the proper denominator,
like it's, it's as simple as that.
749
00:43:07,141 --> 00:43:12,841
That was a complicated, uh, uh,
and, uh, outlandish statement.
750
00:43:12,841 --> 00:43:17,136
We, we'll get into the weeds of
why in the upcoming chapters.
751
00:43:18,481 --> 00:43:19,051
Exactly.
752
00:43:19,111 --> 00:43:22,596
Let's, let's, yes, we'll get,
we'll get into it more later.
753
00:43:23,911 --> 00:43:25,621
Uh, last, uh, last paragraph here.
754
00:43:25,621 --> 00:43:30,181
And, uh, interesting anecdote I think
coming up or interesting thought nugget.
755
00:43:30,871 --> 00:43:35,791
I. Imagine growing up in an Amish
community until your 16th birthday,
756
00:43:35,791 --> 00:43:39,241
you're purposely completely
shielded off from the outside world.
757
00:43:39,751 --> 00:43:43,021
Information about how the world
really works is very limited to you.
758
00:43:43,021 --> 00:43:47,518
Since internet access and even TVs and
radios are forbidden within the community.
759
00:43:48,148 --> 00:43:50,698
Well, from a certain
perspective, we're all Amish.
760
00:43:51,388 --> 00:43:54,658
How money really works is never
emphasized enough through traditional
761
00:43:54,658 --> 00:43:56,878
media or public educational institutions.
762
00:43:57,568 --> 00:44:01,708
Most people believe that the monetary
system is somehow sound and fair
763
00:44:01,978 --> 00:44:05,668
when there's overwhelming evidence
to the contrary all over the globe.
764
00:44:06,958 --> 00:44:10,768
yourself, do you remember being taught
about the origins of money in school?
765
00:44:11,548 --> 00:44:12,088
I, me neither.
766
00:44:12,928 --> 00:44:15,898
I don't believe that there's some
great global conspiracy behind the
767
00:44:15,898 --> 00:44:20,188
fact that the ethics of money creation
isn't a school subject, but rather that
768
00:44:20,188 --> 00:44:24,268
plain old ignorance is to blame for
the lack of such a subject primarily.
769
00:44:25,243 --> 00:44:28,603
As soon as their math skill
limit is reached, people seem
770
00:44:28,603 --> 00:44:30,223
to stop caring about numbers.
771
00:44:30,763 --> 00:44:34,243
The difference between a million and
a billion seems lost on a depressingly
772
00:44:34,243 --> 00:44:36,103
large part of the world's population.
773
00:44:37,033 --> 00:44:40,843
In the chapters ahead, we'll explore
the pitfalls of central banking, how
774
00:44:40,843 --> 00:44:45,253
money pops into existence, and how
inflation keeps us all on a leash.
775
00:44:46,993 --> 00:44:47,263
Okay.
776
00:44:48,903 --> 00:44:52,803
Yeah, the difference between a million
and a billion is about a billion.
777
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:58,863
Uh, the, the Amish part
here is, is funny, uh, like.
778
00:44:59,728 --> 00:45:04,318
Do you know why the Amish, uh,
weren't affected by Covid at all?
779
00:45:06,543 --> 00:45:07,363
Yeah, go ahead.
780
00:45:07,528 --> 00:45:08,608
they didn't have a tv.
781
00:45:08,608 --> 00:45:13,918
They didn't have TVs, so that's why
like the, so there's, if anything,
782
00:45:13,918 --> 00:45:17,488
I've changed my views on the
Amish, uh, since I wrote this book.
783
00:45:17,488 --> 00:45:21,478
I think they're pretty based,
uh, I, I mean they, they, they're
784
00:45:21,478 --> 00:45:24,268
not worried about climate change
because they don't have TVs.
785
00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:26,638
Like, uh, they, they, they live life.
786
00:45:27,283 --> 00:45:32,713
Uh, and you, you may say that it's,
uh, ignorant and, and like, uh,
787
00:45:32,833 --> 00:45:35,593
shielded from the rest of the world
and they, they're not getting all
788
00:45:35,593 --> 00:45:39,313
the information, but they're also
not getting any of the propaganda.
789
00:45:39,343 --> 00:45:42,823
So, so, uh, uh, so it's
a double-sided coin.
790
00:45:43,183 --> 00:45:46,543
Uh, I personally believe you
should like, uh, have access to
791
00:45:46,543 --> 00:45:48,463
as much information as possible.
792
00:45:48,793 --> 00:45:54,013
It's just that take care of your filters,
uh, filter the information properly.
793
00:45:54,283 --> 00:45:55,453
That can be hard to do.
794
00:45:56,233 --> 00:45:57,313
One, one trick.
795
00:45:57,343 --> 00:46:00,433
One simple trick is to always
follow the money, to see what
796
00:46:00,433 --> 00:46:01,963
people's real intentions are.
797
00:46:01,963 --> 00:46:05,863
Watch their actions rather than
listening to their words, especially
798
00:46:05,863 --> 00:46:07,333
politicians and bureaucrats.
799
00:46:07,783 --> 00:46:12,223
Uh, and uh, yeah, the Amish are
good at that, so good on them.
800
00:46:12,313 --> 00:46:12,343
I.
801
00:46:12,754 --> 00:46:13,384
Absolutely.
802
00:46:13,384 --> 00:46:15,664
And well, you know, I think, I
think the other point you have
803
00:46:15,664 --> 00:46:19,204
here is that like the, none of this
being covered in school, I mean,
804
00:46:19,504 --> 00:46:23,254
there's something real really there.
805
00:46:23,254 --> 00:46:28,264
Like, uh, like honestly, it's,
it's hard to, to not see some grand
806
00:46:28,264 --> 00:46:31,924
conspiracy here to kind of just shut
everyone up and, and keep us all in
807
00:46:31,924 --> 00:46:33,784
our little boxes because, because.
808
00:46:34,954 --> 00:46:37,024
This stuff really should be fundamental.
809
00:46:37,024 --> 00:46:39,754
The fundamentals of how to live
life are what should be taught
810
00:46:39,754 --> 00:46:44,944
in school, not, not esoteric
things that might be useful later.
811
00:46:44,944 --> 00:46:52,084
I think much of mathematics in, in, in
school beyond real basics actually is
812
00:46:52,384 --> 00:46:57,364
pretty darn useless to most people, like
trigonometry and things like that, but
813
00:46:57,364 --> 00:47:00,484
they completely gloss over the, the, uh.
814
00:47:02,254 --> 00:47:05,524
of money and how to, how to use money
and, and all of these useful things.
815
00:47:05,524 --> 00:47:05,734
Right?
816
00:47:05,734 --> 00:47:07,024
It's, it's, it's so hard.
817
00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:07,894
I don't know.
818
00:47:07,894 --> 00:47:08,314
What do you think?
819
00:47:08,689 --> 00:47:10,909
any, any inflation is theft.
820
00:47:10,969 --> 00:47:13,219
I mean, read Rothberg, people like it.
821
00:47:13,369 --> 00:47:14,719
It's always theft.
822
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,049
A violation has happened if prices go up.
823
00:47:18,529 --> 00:47:21,049
Uh, and this is so hard for
people to understand because
824
00:47:21,049 --> 00:47:22,519
prices have always gone up.
825
00:47:22,819 --> 00:47:26,329
Everyone living today, no one
living today has ever experienced
826
00:47:26,689 --> 00:47:33,349
falling prices in anything but
say like computers, uh, which are.
827
00:47:34,174 --> 00:47:38,254
Have such a technological, fast
technological deflation that,
828
00:47:38,254 --> 00:47:42,124
uh, the, the prices actually
go down even in fiat terms, but
829
00:47:42,124 --> 00:47:43,984
everything else should go down too.
830
00:47:43,984 --> 00:47:45,064
It's as simple as that.
831
00:47:45,064 --> 00:47:49,354
And if you're denominating
Bitcoin, it does so.
832
00:47:50,179 --> 00:47:50,929
Yeah.
833
00:47:50,989 --> 00:47:53,089
And this is what this is all about.
834
00:47:53,089 --> 00:47:56,179
This is what this course is
about, to teach people, teach
835
00:47:56,179 --> 00:47:57,559
people this, these things.
836
00:47:57,619 --> 00:48:03,379
And, uh, another way of viewing the world,
uh, I mean also with a conspiracy thing.
837
00:48:03,739 --> 00:48:10,219
I would, uh, say never attribute to malice
what can be explained by retardation.
838
00:48:10,429 --> 00:48:16,069
Like I, I think, I think
that, uh, oftentimes it's
839
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:17,509
just that the whole system is.
840
00:48:17,929 --> 00:48:20,419
Uh, incentives are set the way they are.
841
00:48:20,419 --> 00:48:29,569
And like even the, even money printing
like is not someone, uh, conspiring to,
842
00:48:29,944 --> 00:48:32,199
to, uh, uh, manipulate everyone else.
843
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:35,349
It's just that the temptation,
the incentive to print money
844
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:37,089
if you can, is too strong.
845
00:48:37,659 --> 00:48:42,399
So humans have never been able to resist
the temptation to take a little more
846
00:48:42,399 --> 00:48:47,619
for yourself than, uh, than you are
actually entitled to, which is why we
847
00:48:47,619 --> 00:48:51,759
can't leave anyone in charge of the
money print because the psychopaths will.
848
00:48:53,694 --> 00:48:58,584
Like flock to those positions in society
where they, where they get to use others.
849
00:48:58,794 --> 00:49:03,534
So, so a psychopath is bound to
end up in controlling the money
850
00:49:03,534 --> 00:49:04,794
printer at the end of the day.
851
00:49:05,034 --> 00:49:09,204
And, and this is why it's, I. The
incentives were there before the
852
00:49:09,204 --> 00:49:10,524
malice, if you know what I mean.
853
00:49:10,524 --> 00:49:13,524
Before, before the bad guy
came there, the incentive to,
854
00:49:13,644 --> 00:49:15,174
to become a bad guy was there.
855
00:49:15,684 --> 00:49:19,859
So, uh, it can be explained by
that, uh, what Bitcoin does, it is
856
00:49:19,974 --> 00:49:25,704
it provides us with a system where
actually following the rules is more
857
00:49:25,704 --> 00:49:27,564
profitable than trying to break them.
858
00:49:28,284 --> 00:49:30,864
Uh, which, which completely
changes the incentive.
859
00:49:30,864 --> 00:49:31,494
So, so.
860
00:49:33,219 --> 00:49:37,719
If, if, if there's anything,
any such thing as a positive
861
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,249
conspiracy, this would be it.
862
00:49:39,279 --> 00:49:44,019
Like we're, we're, we're actually scheming
to make people behave in different ways.
863
00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:45,909
It's, uh, yeah.
864
00:49:47,634 --> 00:49:48,264
No, it's great.
865
00:49:48,264 --> 00:49:53,094
I mean, the, the finding is,
is that good intentions, people
866
00:49:53,094 --> 00:49:54,384
can have good intentions, right?
867
00:49:54,384 --> 00:49:58,584
Like, uh, it, it can be completely
reasonable to think that it's, it
868
00:49:58,824 --> 00:50:02,754
would be nice to order the world
in such a way that everyone gets
869
00:50:02,754 --> 00:50:04,254
everything taken care of and.
870
00:50:05,619 --> 00:50:11,529
Society runs all smoothly and, and, and
all this, but the, the sinister nature
871
00:50:11,529 --> 00:50:15,759
is that, is that people who can take
advantage of such, such systems will,
872
00:50:16,089 --> 00:50:18,129
and I think we'll explore those ideas.
873
00:50:18,474 --> 00:50:19,164
More in the future.
874
00:50:19,164 --> 00:50:23,514
But for now, I think I, I think this
was a, an excellent chapter and,
875
00:50:23,514 --> 00:50:26,364
uh, uh, to our, to our listeners.
876
00:50:26,424 --> 00:50:28,284
Hey, we're, we're, we're
done the chapter now.
877
00:50:28,344 --> 00:50:30,054
Um, go, leave us a comment.
878
00:50:30,204 --> 00:50:31,134
Tell us what you think.
879
00:50:31,164 --> 00:50:35,124
If you're watching on YouTube or Rumble,
go, go, leave us a comment there.
880
00:50:35,454 --> 00:50:39,324
Uh, if you've, if you've been listening
on Fountain or something, uh, uh, send
881
00:50:39,324 --> 00:50:42,414
us a tweet or a post on nos about it.
882
00:50:42,504 --> 00:50:45,744
Uh, let us know what you think
and, uh, looking forward to
883
00:50:45,744 --> 00:50:47,184
continuing the conversation.
884
00:50:47,184 --> 00:50:47,424
But.
885
00:50:47,674 --> 00:50:50,289
Yes, and, and about
continuing the conversation.
886
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,329
The road to hell is paved.
887
00:50:52,329 --> 00:50:56,469
With good intentions as we know
which, what, what is why I think
888
00:50:56,469 --> 00:50:59,919
there's a, a highway to hell
and a just a stairway to heaven.
889
00:51:00,339 --> 00:51:06,639
Uh, and speaking of, we'll get into one
of my most controversial chapters ever,
890
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,279
I think next week or, or not next week.
891
00:51:09,279 --> 00:51:12,849
This is coming out like just a
couple of days after this, which is
892
00:51:12,879 --> 00:51:16,809
chapter two of Sovereignty through
mathematics called Financial Atheism.
893
00:51:17,374 --> 00:51:21,394
And, uh, I'll explain how my views
have changed on that since I wrote
894
00:51:21,394 --> 00:51:24,844
it and what I still agree with
and what I might disagree with.
895
00:51:24,844 --> 00:51:30,904
So looking forward to that and to defining
the word, the words and all all the stuff.
896
00:51:30,934 --> 00:51:31,804
So, yeah.
897
00:51:32,134 --> 00:51:33,124
Welcome back next time.
898
00:51:33,694 --> 00:51:34,774
Welcome back next time.
899
00:51:34,774 --> 00:51:35,314
Perfect.
900
00:51:35,344 --> 00:51:39,214
Uh, I, I think I'll, I'll, I was gonna
ask you, did you have any last words,
901
00:51:39,214 --> 00:51:41,014
but I think you just, just covered that.
902
00:51:41,014 --> 00:51:41,644
Am I right?
903
00:51:41,869 --> 00:51:42,159
Yeah.
904
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:43,319
These were my last words.
905
00:51:43,779 --> 00:51:44,799
These were, these were.
906
00:51:45,279 --> 00:51:45,639
All right.
907
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,419
Well, hey, so before, before we wrap
up, I think we'll just, we'll just say,
908
00:51:49,419 --> 00:51:54,279
uh, a big shout out to, first of all,
everyone who's joined the academy so far.
909
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:58,359
If you wanna be involved in the, the
discussions and support what we're doing.
910
00:51:58,359 --> 00:52:01,899
The easiest way, easiest way,
is to, to join the academy.
911
00:52:02,049 --> 00:52:06,044
Either join the specific course
or, or pick up the Metral Atium
912
00:52:06,049 --> 00:52:08,529
membership so that you have
access to absolutely everything.
913
00:52:08,649 --> 00:52:10,839
All the details are on our Geyser page.
914
00:52:11,379 --> 00:52:16,389
Er Fund slash Project slash infinity
and all the details are there.
915
00:52:16,839 --> 00:52:22,659
Uh, also thank you to Plan B Network
for, for supporting this, this endeavor.
916
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,589
It's how we can make it available for
free to everyone, both on noster and in
917
00:52:26,589 --> 00:52:29,409
the the video audio segment we have here.
918
00:52:29,409 --> 00:52:31,179
So check out plan B network.
919
00:52:31,464 --> 00:52:35,094
For more fantastic educational
resources, and we're really happy
920
00:52:35,094 --> 00:52:36,984
to be, be a part of this initiative.
921
00:52:37,224 --> 00:52:42,624
Uh, a short, uh, a condensed version or
a bridged version of, of these recordings
922
00:52:42,624 --> 00:52:46,254
is also gonna be available on the,
the Plan B network, YouTube channel.
923
00:52:46,864 --> 00:52:47,579
Rumble channel.
924
00:52:48,084 --> 00:52:49,614
and Rumble, it's, it's both.
925
00:52:49,739 --> 00:52:50,279
it's both.
926
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:50,519
Yeah.
927
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:50,909
Yeah.
928
00:52:51,324 --> 00:52:51,564
yeah.
929
00:52:53,214 --> 00:52:53,454
Okay.
930
00:52:53,944 --> 00:52:55,024
So that's Plan B Network.
931
00:52:55,024 --> 00:52:55,864
Thanks again to them.
932
00:52:55,864 --> 00:52:57,814
And, and the other one
of course is Bit Box.
933
00:52:57,814 --> 00:53:02,044
They've been a, they've been a long time
supporter of both of our shows also now,
934
00:53:02,044 --> 00:53:04,024
so, so big, A big shout out to them.
935
00:53:04,234 --> 00:53:08,674
Go to Bit box.swiss/infiniti
for a discount on the Bit
936
00:53:08,674 --> 00:53:10,144
Box zero two Hardware wallet.
937
00:53:10,144 --> 00:53:12,544
Our, our favorite hardware
wallet at Fantastic for newbies.
938
00:53:12,544 --> 00:53:13,714
Super easy to use.
939
00:53:13,714 --> 00:53:16,084
So yeah, it's, um, thanks.
940
00:53:16,084 --> 00:53:16,654
Bit box.
941
00:53:17,554 --> 00:53:20,404
Anything else on, on,
uh, those topics there?
942
00:53:20,404 --> 00:53:20,524
K.
943
00:53:21,229 --> 00:53:21,529
Yes.
944
00:53:21,529 --> 00:53:24,739
A final thing for this specific
chapter that we just went through,
945
00:53:24,799 --> 00:53:28,189
the sovereignty through mathematics,
there's a little animation made by Yoni
946
00:53:28,189 --> 00:53:30,949
Appleberg, uh, narrated by guy, guy one.
947
00:53:31,189 --> 00:53:35,629
So if you search for Bitcoin, every,
uh, everything, a trade on, uh,
948
00:53:36,169 --> 00:53:37,819
YouTube, you'll find that video.
949
00:53:38,029 --> 00:53:40,009
Uh, yeah, I highly recommend that.
950
00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:43,549
And all of Yoni's, other
videos for that matter.
951
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:44,989
Uh, so.
952
00:53:45,469 --> 00:53:49,159
Check out that, and, uh, as Luke
said, leave a comment, like,
953
00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:50,719
subscribe and brush your teeth.
954
00:53:50,869 --> 00:53:51,649
See you next time.
955
00:53:52,534 --> 00:53:54,544
Yeah, but we're not
totally done yet, are we?
956
00:53:54,754 --> 00:53:54,814
No.
957
00:53:54,814 --> 00:53:58,894
Well, we could be, I
guess, but, but, uh, no.
958
00:53:58,894 --> 00:54:02,824
Uh, uh, just a reminder, everywhere
you can, uh, everywhere you can
959
00:54:02,854 --> 00:54:06,004
see us this upcoming year, we're
gonna be at a whole bunch of.
960
00:54:06,004 --> 00:54:10,054
Your conferences, uh, I think
you've got a slightly more full
961
00:54:10,054 --> 00:54:11,434
schedule, Cano, so you wanna tell us
962
00:54:11,524 --> 00:54:12,154
Oh yes.
963
00:54:12,184 --> 00:54:15,334
Uh, thanks for that reminder.
964
00:54:15,454 --> 00:54:19,444
So, uh, now in May I'm going to
Ireland to a Bitcoin conference
965
00:54:19,444 --> 00:54:20,704
there, Bitcoin, Ireland.
966
00:54:20,764 --> 00:54:25,354
And then we're both going
to Prague, uh, for B2C.
967
00:54:25,354 --> 00:54:27,124
Prague, uh, use.
968
00:54:27,964 --> 00:54:30,304
This goes for every single
conference and everything else.
969
00:54:30,304 --> 00:54:32,104
You can buy Bitcoin
related on the internet.
970
00:54:32,104 --> 00:54:36,154
Really use code infinity for a
discount, especially for Prague now.
971
00:54:36,214 --> 00:54:39,334
Uh, and uh, then we're going to, uh.
972
00:54:40,699 --> 00:54:43,789
Uh, Bitcoin Rodeo in, in Calgary, Canada.
973
00:54:44,629 --> 00:54:49,009
And after that, uh, we're,
I'm going to Budapest and you
974
00:54:49,009 --> 00:54:51,229
are going to Riga after that.
975
00:54:51,229 --> 00:54:55,159
We're organizing a conference in
Helsinki, Finland, in the, at the end
976
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:57,559
of August, uh, or the middle of August.
977
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:00,409
So, uh, yeah, Baltic, KBA and Istanbul.
978
00:55:00,469 --> 00:55:02,599
Uh, no, not Istanbul, Budapest.
979
00:55:03,069 --> 00:55:04,599
Uh, I travel too much.
980
00:55:04,809 --> 00:55:10,869
Uh, our, uh, on the eighth and 9th of
August and the B2C, hell in Helsinki
981
00:55:10,869 --> 00:55:13,119
is on the 15th and 16th, I believe.
982
00:55:13,179 --> 00:55:14,199
I think I got that right.
983
00:55:14,209 --> 00:55:15,169
You did get it right.
984
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:15,979
Yeah, exactly.
985
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:16,459
No, no.
986
00:55:16,459 --> 00:55:19,699
Uh, really great, really great
conference schedule coming up.
987
00:55:19,729 --> 00:55:21,169
Uh, come say hello.
988
00:55:21,439 --> 00:55:23,389
Uh, get a book signed if you want.
989
00:55:23,389 --> 00:55:25,339
Uh, yeah, we'll, we'll be there.
990
00:55:25,339 --> 00:55:26,569
Looking forward to it.
991
00:55:26,629 --> 00:55:27,499
And uh,
992
00:55:28,369 --> 00:55:31,039
And Bulgaria and Logano.
993
00:55:31,189 --> 00:55:34,099
Don't forget, Logano, like the
Plan B conference in Logano
994
00:55:34,099 --> 00:55:35,509
is coming up in October.
995
00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:37,669
If we're going through
the entire schedule here,
996
00:55:37,954 --> 00:55:38,509
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
997
00:55:38,509 --> 00:55:42,109
I think the, we're, we're confirming
the Bulgaria and, and, and ano
998
00:55:42,109 --> 00:55:44,569
here, but I'm, I'm sure that, I'm
sure we'll, we'll wrap those up.
999
00:55:44,569 --> 00:55:46,009
Looking forward to, to all of it.
1000
00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:48,619
So, uh, but come to, come to
Helsinki though, if you can.
1001
00:55:48,619 --> 00:55:50,839
Seriously, we're, we're
really excited about this one.
1002
00:55:50,839 --> 00:55:53,629
We're gonna, we're gonna have
lots of fantastic side events.
1003
00:55:53,629 --> 00:55:55,909
There's a ton of great
speakers lined up already.
1004
00:55:55,909 --> 00:55:59,239
So this is, this is another
one of these ways that, uh, you
1005
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,069
can get the, the most out of.
1006
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:05,449
Uh, you know, your relationship
with us and, and all this
1007
00:56:05,449 --> 00:56:07,189
come to come to Helsinki.
1008
00:56:07,309 --> 00:56:09,739
Um, yeah, we, we'd really
love to see you there.
1009
00:56:09,919 --> 00:56:15,649
It's, it's my adopted hometown and I'm
really excited to, to show it off to
1010
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:21,139
International Bitcoiners and we're really
trying to raise awareness and adoption.
1011
00:56:21,489 --> 00:56:23,649
In Finland and the, the
Nordics more generally.
1012
00:56:23,649 --> 00:56:28,059
So that's, uh, another way you can have
a big impact is to, to come to Helsinki
1013
00:56:28,059 --> 00:56:33,549
and, and, and show, show, uh, everyone
here, um, what Bitcoin is all about.
1014
00:56:33,789 --> 00:56:35,859
So that's the, the short pitch.
1015
00:56:35,919 --> 00:56:39,339
You'll be hearing it constantly
until the conference, but
1016
00:56:39,339 --> 00:56:40,299
we're really excited about it.
1017
00:56:40,299 --> 00:56:40,479
Right.
1018
00:56:40,479 --> 00:56:40,719
Knu.
1019
00:56:41,019 --> 00:56:42,249
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
1020
00:56:42,279 --> 00:56:44,559
The really short pitch
would be go to hell people.
1021
00:56:47,479 --> 00:56:49,399
I don't have anything more to add.
1022
00:56:49,399 --> 00:56:50,629
So is is this it?
1023
00:56:50,629 --> 00:56:53,899
Are we, uh, gonna put a
ribbon on this one now?
1024
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:56,569
I think we're gonna put a
ribbon on this one right now.
1025
00:56:58,189 --> 00:56:58,639
Alright.
1026
00:56:58,639 --> 00:56:59,359
Thank you Luke.
1027
00:56:59,389 --> 00:57:00,199
See you next time.
1028
00:57:00,379 --> 00:57:02,209
Thanks Knut, and thank you for listening.
1029
00:57:02,449 --> 00:57:02,914
See you next time.